Madam President.
>> Hey, good evening. It is my pleasure to
welcome you to the January 20th, 2026
Maruna Burough Council Super Committee
meeting. Please join me in standing for
the pledge of
>> mis
one nation under God indivisible with
liberty and justice for all
>> call Mr. may
um Tim Long
>> here.
>> John Germais present.
>> Kelly Rodriguez.
>> Dr. Carpenter.
>> Adam President
Resc.
>> Thank you. I'm present.
>> Um
Sperling
>> here. Miss Penza
>> present. And I'm here and let the record
show that this is Tracy Holder's here
also.
>> Yep. And um Jason Daly is uh unable to
attend tonight due to travel related uh
issues.
Item four, registered comments from the
public. We hope to be joined by Melinda
Shetts, Dormmont Burough Assistant
Manager, who is going to talk to us a
bit about their super committee
structure and how it works. Um,
unfortunately there was a conflict for
tonight. So we are going to table that
until uh a future meeting. Um, but we
look forward to hearing from Melinda. So
this brings us to section five, comments
from the public. This time council will
hear comments on public related matters.
Please approach the podium or raise your
virtual hand. State your name and
address and limit your remarks to three
minutes or less. Comments should focus
on burough business policies or actions.
Council encourages thoughtful feedback
on decisions and performance while
maintaining respectful and constructive
dialogue. Are there any comments from
the public today?
Let the record reflect. There are none
at this time. So we will move on to item
six discussion items. Um as mentioned we
are joined by our HR consultant Dr.
Tracy Holtz tonight. Um Tracy will be
leading us on a series of exercises
tonight in order to draft two items at
the end of this evening. The first is
our first ever council code of conduct
and the second which we will get to
shortly is a vision and goal setting
exercise for council for 2026. Um we
want to note that this will be primarily
a discussion among council members but
we will of course welcome comments from
the public again at the end of the
session. Um so with that Tracy would you
like to take us away?
>> Sure.
>> Thank you.
moving along.
Okay, so first I wanted to introduce
myself because we have two new council
members. Um so just to give you a little
bit of background on myself, I have
about 25 years in human resources. I'm
not going to read this slide, but um I
definitely have worked in a different um
a number of different industries,
government, education, nonprofit. Um I'm
currently working in banking. Um, I have
my bachelor's in human resources, my
masters in labor relations, and my EDDD
in organizational leadership. So, I am
certified. I'm distant strength fighter
certified. Also, I teach HR
certification classes along with HR
classes at RMU and Point Park
University. Um, I am a former council
member. I think that's how I've kind of
like gotten to know some people on
council and everything like that. I
think I think Trish and I went through
the LGA, which I found was very um
educational and everything like that
together. Um, so, um, I, um, and I'm
also the secretary of the Penn Hills
Community Development Corporation. Um,
John and I have worked closely together
the past year. Um, we've really tried to
get some HR projects, um, completed. I
have a list of the things that we
actually have completed. Um, we did
complete out some of the job
descriptions, finalizing them. We also
completed um disciplinary procedures um
time off policies um audit forms um exit
interview forms you know we also looked
at the process for recruitment um we did
hire the new police chief um who is here
in the audience that was a a different a
very good process that we used um and
we've still identified some 2026
projects that we initiated but we're
going to get we're going to get to the
finish line this year um the employee
the handbook performance reviews. Um
we're going to do um professional
training and development. Um we talked a
little bit about just different things
on reviewing. Um right now I'm reviewing
all the file structure in the HR um well
really in the whole bureau. Um there was
a number of different files and
everything. So we're creating a file
structure and then we're creating like
policy manuals and procedures manuals
and everything like that. So there's a
lot to do. I also wanted to recognize
last year's committee and the work that
they did, Sylvia and former council
member FA for the work that they did uh
putting all that together. Uh you know
they were they were really instrumental
in developing these policies along with
me and yourself obviously. So, uh, you
know, we've there's a lot of time,
awful lot of time. I mean, there's a lot
of work to be done yet, but I mean this,
uh,
a lot of stuff to go over. Still a lot
of stuff to go over.
>> Definitely. So, so we're going to get
into our first exercise, okay? And it's
going to be a fun one. I promise you.
Um I think um Trish, Nancy, and John and
I have met and we actually met with
Jason too to really talk about like
again now that you have there's new
council members here like establishing
just protocol working together really
doing some you know deep dive into
sharing you know setting expectations
but then in conjunction with that also
you know setting our goal setting your
goals for the year and everything like
that. So, we decided to like do some fun
exercises the public can watch. It is an
open forum. Um, it is definitely, as
Trish said, you can make comments after
we're done, but we really wanted I think
from their perspective, um, again,
because I'm not on council, but from
their perspective, they wanted to make
it as transparent and as open as
possible so people could see it and to
be, um, you know, and and to kind of
just see what the new council's going
to, you know, do and everything like
that. But we are going to do breakout
groups for the first exercise. So, what
we're going to do is we're going to have
um group one who's kind of like John and
John is going to work with it a little
bit. Um you're um you guys are going to
um go into the um probably the office.
Is that where you're going into? Um and
it's going to be um Tim, they're going
to call you on the phone. So, you're
going to mute your um you're going to
mute your Zoom and they'll call you on
the phone. Um, Kelly, you're going to be
in that group. And then Trisha's going
to be in that group. Okay. That's going
to be group one. Okay. And then group
two is going to go into the kitchen.
>> No, I don't think we're going to go in
the kitchen tonight.
>> It's been taken over by children.
>> We'll go in the other part of the door
in between.
>> Yeah, go in the other part of the
office. That's perfectly fine. Um, and
then Dave, you're in that um you're in
that group. Sylvia, you're in that
group. And Kurt, you're in that group,
too. Okay. Now, what we're gonna do is
basically it's the slide here. So, we
got to figure out I have a I have a
actually have the questions here and
stuff like that. Maybe I don't have like
I'm trying to think because we're going
in different offices and stuff like
that. So, let me just kind of share for
So, group one is interactions with each
other. So, that's kind of like John's
group. Okay. So, what you're going to
want to do is you're want to want to
talk about what specific behaviors
demonstrate um that a council member is
effective in their role.
What specific actions or habits reflect
the council member's professional during
meetings? How will you address conflict
or disagreement within the group,
especially if a fellow council member
says or does something disrespectful so
discussion remains productive and
respectful? And then what behaviors
undermine good governance and should be
avoided. Okay. Um and again, you can
come back and look at the slide, do what
you need to do. um the interactions with
the public which is the group led by
Nancy um it's going to be what specific
behaviors demonstrate an effective
council to public what actions or habits
reflect professionalism during meetings
what makes a response to the public
productive or unproductive and what
behaviors show strong positive
leadership when a public comment feels
harsh or particularly or potentially
inappropriate. I I want to stress and I
know Trish and I talked about this at
length. Okay, this is your exercise.
This is not anyone else telling you how
to act as a council member, what to do
as a council member. This is what you
come up with as a group because you're
going to come back after we do the
breakout groups for about 10 or 15
minutes. Um, you're going to come back
and I'm going to describe what the
spokesperson is telling me and then
we're going to create a set of
expectations for counsel. So, it's
basically, like I said, your set of
rules, your set of what you need to do.
Trish, do you want to add anything to
that that that I missed maybe from our
discussions?
>> Um, no. I think that was perfectly
clear. Are there any questions for
Tracy? Um, Kurt, for your group, you
want to take a picture of the screen?
I'll do the same for mine.
So, we have the questions handy.
>> I have the questions right here.
>> Thanks.
>> Yeah. So I don't need to do you have a
question.
>> Um originally Jason was going to be
here. So Jason was going to be with one
group I don't know taking notes or
something and you were going to be with
the other one. Now he's not here. So
>> she's going to float though.
>> I'm going to float but we're going to
come back. We're gonna come back and
then
>> the spokesperson whether it's announcer
or like I mean like whoever the
spokesperson is for the group is going
to come and you're going to talk like
you're gonna say what the expectations
you came up with and I'm going to
describe that and oh and another thing I
want to I want to say this is not set in
stone because this is just the first
time we're doing this exercise or
anything that there's something that
comes to mind after this exercise
something that you think about something
that comes up it can be a living
breathing document that we can you can
utilize in the future. So, it's not
necessarily again it's just really you
and creating what you want to do and
what you want to see from council and
how you want to interact with the
public. So,
>> okay. So, I'm taking a bird
myself
and
>> Sylvia.
>> Silia. All right. This side
>> and we're going to go all the way back.
>> Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
>> You know what? Well, there's another
thing in there. I'm going to write on
that. I'm not going to be able to
>> Okay. You want to You want to take one
of these and write on it?
>> Yes. One in there.
>> Okay.
and John.
>> We're back.
>> You want to say anything before I start?
>> Um,
I think we're good. Go ahead and
John myself can share for the first one.
>> Yeah. Well, yeah, it's first of all, so
like again to just to set everyone like
you know we it was um groups that were
to talking about expectations. They were
talking about how to interact with each
other and how to interact with the
public. Um again and I did get a
question obviously from someone about
the sunshine law and I was like it they
were not deliberating anything. They
were not discussing any burrow business.
They were just discussing really
expectations on how to interact with
each other. So there was no violation of
any act or law or anything like that. Um
because again made it very specific that
they were definitely talking about just
interaction with each other. So I want
to make that kind of clear. Um so
where's my spokesperson for interactions
with each other? Is that you?
>> Great. Go for it. Tell me what tell me
what you guys came up with on
>> Do you want to repeat the question?
Yeah. Oh, okay.
>> So So yeah, go ahead. You want to get
back on the mic there and uh
>> reiterate because the question
>> the people didn't hear.
>> You want me to repeat the questions?
>> Yeah, repeat the question so the people
on Zoom can hear.
>> Okay. All right. Yeah. Here, let me get
my paper. It'll be easier to do it that
way.
>> All right. So, the questions that they
were asked as far as interactions with
each other, what specific behavior
demonstrates that a council member is
effective in their role? So we came up
with uh you know five different items uh
on that uh on that first one uh which
was uh listening
>> right
>> okay
>> being on time and prepared
>> uh well attendance that that's actually
what been that's
Basically, that's for I guess that's the
same thing.
>> Attendance.
>> Yeah, attendance. But but yeah, uh being
polite.
>> Can I if if you don't mind me asking,
can I can I just put attendance
slashregular attendance? Yes.
>> Yeah. Okay.
>> Yes. I guess that's a difference. Yeah,
there's a difference. Regular attendance
and then on time. Yeah, there's a
difference.
>> You're good. You're good. Right. U
polite.
and better lines of communication each
other.
>> Okay.
>> All right.
>> Is that it for the first question?
>> Yes.
>> Okay. So, the second question is, what
specific actions or habits reflect that
a council member is professional during
meetings? And I kind of fell in line
with those same lines, but you know,
more along the lines of of being um you
know,
listening, but also uh engaging, you
know, um and
um making sure that you are um you know,
always uh polite and you know, not
taking anything personally when you're
up here. You know,
again, you know, you know, there's
always going to be uh someone out there
that might have some sort of an issue,
you know, or knows I've had mine before,
too. So, as a as a citizen, but
you know, we're we're
uh we're here to serve the public and uh
you know, we have a role. you know,
we're not they're not attack when people
are here and they're they're speaking to
you. They're speaking to you as as a as
a council person. No, they're not
attacking you.
>> You know, they're they're they're just
here wanting some action on a problem.
They want you to solve
whatever issue that that they're having.
you know, whether it's a, you know,
block in front of their house, a, you
know, the sidewalk up up on the second
street, you know, some sort of issue
with the dock, you know, something.
>> Yeah. you know, so um you know, being
able to just listen to their concerns
and engaging with them and and and just
being here on time and um and um showing
that you're you're a professional
>> goes a long way with people.
>> And so this is still interactions with
each other. So let me
>> Well, I'm sorry.
>> No, you're good.
I'm saying stoping it over here, but I'm
saying but
>> but yeah, sure.
>> Can I add can again this is like because
we're going to have like a little bit of
open dialogue with council members after
this. Um, but I wanted to say like when
I think of what you just said, polite
not profess like not personal. I also
want to think about and I want you to
think about and maybe I'll put in
parenthesis because again this is your
code not mine but like a lot of times
people don't think that we should you
should disagree and it it's okay to
disagree. I mean respectfully but it's
okay like I dis I I respectfully
disagree with you. So I mean I I think
that that's I mean
>> so you're getting out don't cuss at
people. That's what we want to get to.
>> Okay.
>> But cuss people out.
>> No cussing.
>> It's a given.
>> No cussing.
>> Yeah. And everybody
>> I mean you can, but you
no no personal attacks.
>> Yeah. No no no personal attacks. Okay.
Anything else on the number two?
>> That would be it.
>> Okay. So number three question um how
will we address conflict or disagreement
within the group especially if a fellow
council member says or does something
that feels disrespectful so discussion
remains productive and respectful.
I I'm I'm of the opinion and uh we're
you know that if things tend to get out
of control which you know I think they
seldom do but if they if they do
>> they are just keep but if they if they
do um you know we have always we always
have the option to take a break and go
into recess and let things cool down if
ever you know if if if things ever get
out control.
>> We need concepts of what we need.
>> But
is there any
>> No, there isn't clearly as you can see.
So, we'll have more for people in a
minute. Yeah.
>> And then Yeah. So, take a break, recess.
Um, Trish always has her gavvel.
>> I mean, I know that that's worked in
different.
>> No, no, no, no, no.
say, "What is what are the consequences?
What do we do?"
>> Consequences? I don't know. Let's not
play games here.
>> Oh, no. But what are the consequences?
>> I don't know. Bye.
>> Turn us turn us off.
>> Okay.
>> All right. And if you don't come here,
you go. You got to have consequences.
I'm tired of this game here.
>> So, I'm going to put somewhere in the
middle here. I'm going to put the no
zoom because I know that's a very very
>> Yeah.
I think it's up for discussion um for
everyone.
>> Okay. Um, so let's just I'll put it in
the middle. Okay. Um, anything else like
um on number three,
what behaviors undermine good governance
and should be avoided? Kelly, I think
it's very clear on Zoom like you want
people here in person or is that like
for number four? Right.
>> I'm tired of the BS. That's where I'm
at. Tired of it. I just started and and
and it just gets it it's like a a bowl a
ball rolling down a hill and it just
keeps getting faster and faster and
bigger and bigger. Nobody stops it.
>> Can you be as specific as possible
>> here? Specific as possible 10. Here you
go.
>> You said he was sick.
>> Yeah, right. Where's the doctor's
excuse? I heard him talk like 17 times.
>> We don't have a policy.
>> So prior.
>> I thought we did.
>> We don't have a policy here ever since I
started.
>> This is why we're here though. So
prioritizing inerson.
>> Okay. Give us doctor's excuses as it
says that we're supposed to do.
>> Let's see.
>> Prioritize
in like we're five years old. Come on.
We're adults here. We're we're elected
officials sitting up here and you're at
home. Goodbye then.
>> Okay. And so you would add no profanity.
>> Yeah. Really?
>> I mean that should be a given. And then
when you stand up for yourself and then
you're the bad guy, it's ridiculous.
Right.
Anything else than number four that you
can't like had on your list?
>> Uh,
no. We just said we would just, you
know, go to recess.
>> Okay.
>> Take a break on that.
>> Okay. All right. And are you guys okay
if I put nose in the middle and we could
talk about it a little bit more because
I figure it it does kind of affect both
sides. Yeah.
>> Um, in that regard. Um, so um,
>> all right. interactions with the public.
Nancy, you got take it away. The first
question on here is, "What specific
behaviors demonstrate an effective
counsel to the public?"
>> Wow.
>> We wrote a book.
>> All right. I'm not going to describe
since you described for me. I could take
pictures of that and like put it all in
a document. So, but let's say kind,
caring, respectful, understanding,
listening,
um
>> having integrity, honesty, and
sensitivity.
>> Integrity,
honesty,
and sensitivity.
I'm I'm liking this pattern here,
though.
>> And a couple of the words were added
because what we noticed is that there's
a lot of overlap in the questions.
>> Yeah. And what I'm seeing now is that
there's overlap between interacting with
each other and interacting with the
public.
>> Yeah.
>> That's why I said here
>> Here's the thing that I think we missed.
We're on the same team.
>> Yes. Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Okay. So then
>> number two number two question was what
actions or habits reflect
professionalism during meetings?
>> Okay. what I can do paying attention.
Don't
make faces like eye rolls or you know
um make eye contact
um with people when they're speaking.
Um it's helpful to dress, you know,
business casual. It doesn't have to be a
suit and tie. Um and what did I say? No.
So, yeah. I mean, just so you know, I'm
looking at my phone because my questions
are here, but we don't want people like
scrolling Facebook while they're at a
meeting. So, don't be staring at your
phone the whole time.
>> Right.
Let's see. No eating. We don't want
people eating their cheeses during the
meeting. And we all need to work very
much at being careful not to interrupt
have to interrupt each other and not to
interrupt people from from while they're
speaking.
It's hard to do. I I know
>> but we have to trust.
>> It does. It does.
>> Um that's what we had for number two.
>> Okay. Number three is
>> make a response.
>> Hold on. Hold on. Let's raise the
question again. What makes a response to
the public productive or unproductive?
>> So again, uh overlap uh looking people
in the eye when they're talking, being
respectful to the person, no name
calling or swearing, cussing, profanity,
however you want to say that. Again, the
eye rolling, and keep a pleasant tone of
voice,
you know, with people. People can tell
if you're being mean to them or or you
know what I'm saying? Versus whether we
can stay with a neutral um with a
neutral
uh
what am I trying to say? Neutral tone of
voice. Yeah. So here, see here's
there you want to add that.
>> Neutral.
>> I I'll take that too. I'll take that.
just print it off and give it to you.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Um
>> number four.
>> Yeah, because I can I can like take
pictures and then like I said, I'll put
it all in a word document. That's that's
the goal of this goal of both of these
exercises to put it all together. Okay.
Um and then number four, what behaviors
show strong positive leadership when a
public comment feels harsh or
potentially inappropriate?
Well, again, you know, you don't want to
be making faces while someone is
talking, even though it's something you
don't want to hear. So, and you want to,
you know, look look at people, you know,
so they know you're paying attention to
what they're saying. The bottom line, I
think, is listening.
>> I think we had body language, too, on
>> Yeah, it's not there yet. Oh, where is
the body? I wrote that down. You had
maybe I missed it. No, no. It's just
page. Yeah.
>> Body language, neutral. Yeah.
>> Yeah. You don't want to be, you know,
signing or something like
>> Oh, yeah. I wrote that some here. The
eye rolling sign. Yeah.
>> Um
and then you know what what we've been
working on is saying thank you for your
comment.
We've been told that in general we're
not to respond. You'll get into a
dialogue.
Um,
and just have patience.
>> I think we also discussed getting back
to the president and assignment man on
their
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Oh, okay. I'm sorry.
>> Um, and so be willing to follow up on on
someone's uh issue and make sure we get
back to them. Basically, don't ignore
what they're what they're bringing up.
if you know it'll happen eventually, but
definitely explain people,
you know, what what the deal is. Like if
it's something that'll take us a week to
figure out, then let people know that
it's going to take us a week to figure
out, but we will get back to you.
>> Yeah. And then again, sometimes things
do happen. Sometimes things do get
missed. And if like the public brings it
up again, you're like, "Oh my gosh, we
we missed that. We we take that. We take
full responsibility. We'll do we'll
follow up on it. might be another one to
put down is just like apologize. If we
if we screw up, just apologize.
Okay.
All right. So, now I want group one.
Okay. This group one, actually, I'll do
this opposite. I want group two to weigh
in on group one's
ideas here.
>> Like, weigh in how? Like do you agree
with them? Do you not agree? Like what's
your what's your stance? What are you
what are you thinking?
>> Well, I've been talking so I'll let
other people respond.
>> What what was the the the question?
>> What So group one came up with
interactions with each other. Okay. So
we described those. So what do you think
about those? Do they sound good to you?
Do you want to add to it as council
members and mayor? like what do you what
are your thoughts?
>> My opinion is I think that you know
everything that they did uh write down
on there is um way we should be
interacting
>> with each other.
>> Yeah. With each other, not only the
board but with the public.
>> I think from from what I see on there it
just gets summed up to mutual uh respect
between each other. So
>> yeah, we're basically
>> working together is the key. We can all
be on the same team, same line to get
things done done correct.
>> I like what you said, Kurt.
>> Okay. Because looking at both one and
two, they're pretty much, you know,
their qu answers and our answers are
pretty much, you know, very close to the
same, you know, we're talking about.
>> Yeah.
>> All right. Now, group one, what do you
think about group two's
interactions with the public? Is there
anything you want to add? Are you okay
with it? Like, what are you thinking?
I mean,
>> all right. You want to add teamwork?
>> Teamwork, respect. I mean, it's all
good. You know,
>> it's pretty much all there. Yeah.
>> Yeah. I think the teamwork comment I
heard Kelly say, I just heard Sylvia
say, is excellent. It's easy to forget
that we're all in the same team. this
stuff gets heated. If we're seeing the
issue from opposite ends, as well as
with the public, sometimes it can feel
very heated and that we're under attack,
so to speak, speak, but we're all just a
team wanting Corona to be better. And
the second to the last point about
getting back to people, um, sometimes in
the past
things haven't been as uh as great as
they could be in that area. So, we all
have a little I I know I do. So, I'm I'm
sure speaking for a lot of people, a
little bit of like PTSD about not um
getting a response or feeling that
something fell off the radar. Am I Does
that resonate with anyone? So,
>> Oh, yeah.
Remembering that we're all Go ahead. I'm
sorry.
>> I'm sorry. Don't mean to cut your I
don't want to cut you off. Sorry.
>> That's okay. Justify
our things. There's one that kind of
ties in with both with it's it has to do
with communication and uh so it has to
do with a lot with communicating with
the public and communicating with each
other especially on issue if we if one
member uh on the board was to let's say
meet with a member of the public or was
to try to address a certain issue with
public and let's say they kept it quiet
or did not tell the rest of the board
what they were doing And
you know, that's not I don't I think
it's it's good to have those open lines
of communication with the board and let
everyone know what's being done. And I
think I what I've seen in the past and
it's been done several times where, you
know, one one of us or couple of us have
acted and we haven't let everyone else
know. I made a mistake last year myself.
>> Yes. Yes. Yes,
>> I made a mistake myself last year where
I I I took a meeting myself
and I I did not inform the rest of the
board where I should have informed the
rest of the board and I I informed the
rest of the board after I took the
meeting. Now, it offended a few folks on
the board and I apologize for that, but
I should have told everyone what I was
doing prior to taking that meeting and
that was my fault. Now,
that should have been something where I
should have understood that when I act,
I'm acting as
on behalf of everyone here, not just for
myself.
And that's I'm gonna put I wrote that
down because I was like but I'm going to
add a little bit to it like do not act
unilaterally.
>> Good.
>> You know I mean so yeah do not act
unilaterally
try to spell right
>> can we ask if we have any? Yeah, I we'll
have Tracy, but I think we'll do that.
>> What the Zoom?
>> She wanted No, she wanted to know if we
ask the public.
>> I'm I'm fine if we want to ask public
for this and then when we move to the
goals, we can ask public for goals. If
you're okay with it, Trish, like I don't
know. Like timewise, I think we're still
okay. Like
>> I think we're okay. Um I'd like to start
with Councilman Long and then go to
public. Okay. Tim, do you have anything
you want to add?
Tim, do you have anything you want to
add?
>> Tim, can you hear us?
>> Is he on mute? Is that what the red is
thinking?
>> Yeah, he's on mute. Yeah, that's just
saying his microphone,
>> right?
>> Yeah. Right.
He's having an audio problem.
>> Did he text you or
can't talk and he can't talk? He says,
>> "Oh, that's right. He hasitis. He can't
talk." Does he have anything he wants to
text? Does it say what he
has opinions about?
>> You want me Do you want me Is there
anything you want me to add
on your on your behalf?
man calling the shots over there.
Susie,
>> no.
>> Okay, very good. Um, at this time we
also have an additional period for
comments from the public on this
exercise. Please approach the podium or
raise your virtual hand. Try and limit
your remarks to three minutes and focus
on burough business policies or action.
>> And you're gonna have to lend your mic
to them if they come up if there's
anybody or you can hand them the mic.
They don't have to come up.
>> Are there any comments on this exercise?
Go ahead, J.
>> My only comment is I'm Judy Williams 53.
Um
the in
place because I'm over the
>> post
>> when when council is in public and you
meet the um like people on the street
and everything.
>> Do people know that you're on counsel?
>> Depends.
>> Do you let people know that you're on
counsel? Do you let people know that,
you know, we have council meetings and
like everybody's more than welcome to
come and all that kind of stuff?
>> I I think generally, yes. I think I
speak for most of us, you can't really
hide in a community of our size.
>> No, no, you're right there. But I just
know because I'm fairly new.
>> Yeah. A whole lot of stuff and
everything
>> and like we've had a lot of like
>> Yeah. like the Halloween thing, it's the
backpacks and all that kind of stuff.
And I felt that the you guys were really
really good interacting with the people,
but I'm just wondering or if you're
because you know me, but like you don't
know my sister. I try to introduce you
to my sister because she wants to be
very active too, but she doesn't like to
volunteer for anything.
>> Yes.
>> So, she comes along with me.
>> That's great. Um, I'm wondering if we're
missing something we might want to add,
which is we should make an effort to be
in the community out and about
introducing ourselves. Is that
>> Yeah, attending events.
>> Yeah, I did want to say that
everybody is always attending events.
>> I think so, but I also think it's one of
those unspoken things that could easily
fall off the radar while we're talking
about it.
>> Yeah. Anybody else? We have a hand
raised up on Zoom.
>> Susie Davis,
>> I have a question. It's about the Zoom
meetings. Um why and how many meetings
can you miss
>> being in the public eye before you're no
longer on council.
>> I believe we elected you. We put you up
there. We want to see you here. We want
to see you not sleeping,
but they need one council member. This
is his third meeting missing.
What's going to be done to him? Okay,
maybe he has larites today. I don't
know. But why is it always
Oh, I can miss and nothing can be done.
You're here to represent us and let us
question you.
>> Okay. Thank you for your comment.
>> That and if he's at home,
him and a former council member live
together. Um, I'm sure that other
council member is probably sliding notes
over to him to say what he wants him to
say.
>> I don't want to speculate on that.
>> Yeah.
>> Do you have any other comments?
>> No.
>> Okay. Thank you, Susie. Um, I see. Thank
you, Leslie. Set hand is raised. Leslie,
go ahead.
>> Hi. Yeah, Leslie setlock 566. Bruce, um,
yeah, I was uh, thanks for for sharing
this process. It was interesting to
hear. I guess my question slash concern
is how are you guys going to hold each
other accountable for this? So like I
hear the the comments about respecting
each other and treating each other with
respect like council to council, but
I've also heard council members being
insulted like tonight already. So I'm
curious how you're going to hold each
other accountable and how you're going
to like expect the best from each other.
Thanks.
>> Yeah.
Yeah. Is there a rubber band for that?
Um officially there is a sunsh process
um that we could explore. I hope we
don't have to explore. Um I hope we can
continue to focus on positive uh
interactions and outcomes positive
reinforcement as opposed to negative. Um
but we'll take it one step at a time.
>> And and if I like so Trish and I did
talk about last like is again this is
their expectations. They're coming up
with it both for the interactions with
each other and interactions with the
public. Um again it go it is going to be
a living breathing document but we
definitely are going to be like hey
remember the expectations that we said
hey this is what we we discussed this is
what we agreed to you know this is where
we are so um I'm going to I have an idea
and you could tell me like for the
elephant in the room which is the zoom
versus non zoom okay just ask one favor
um Leslie could you please lower your
hand so we're not confused in case you
want to raise it am.
>> Yeah, it usually goes down in just a
second, but I will see if I can lower it
intentionally. Thanks.
>> Thank you.
>> Um I I think that we should do kind of
like a call like to say what is what
does each council member think about it
if you're okay with that and then maybe
that is something that we end up
tableabling at some point in time. Um
again I've suggested most other
counselor like you know they have the
ability to do it as needed for
emergencies family things sickness but
it is the norm that they are in person
that is 90% of every council in Alageney
County if they are doing it they are 99%
of them are in person unless there is
some special circumstance and that was
the Norman Oakmont Norman Pen Hills
Norman everywhere
like you know what I mean? So um that's
from what I understand. So you are you
okay just doing
>> Yep. And then we should probably switch
to the other exercise too.
>> Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. We Yes. Okay. John,
Zoom or no Zoom?
>> I am for Zoom but for specific
circumstances.
>> Okay. I you know I I think that uh you
know you have to have you know either
you're on on travel you know your
business travel or travel you could be
on vacation it's fine. Um if you're sick
um you might have
problem you know you might be a mother
with you know
some issue with uh you know kids that
you know you might not have a sitter for
kids or something there might be some
circumstance where you not may not be
able to make it to the meeting you know
that
>> you know I'm not saying it has to you
know you're going to have to do it every
meeting if it happens to be a habitual
saying it's an it is an is it is an
issue.
>> I'm just saying it's there for a
convenience. It's not there for
like use every time, right?
>> Yeah. Okay.
>> And and but the the Zoom, we're putting
it up there for the public,
>> you know, it's not there really for
council members,
>> you know, it's there for the public to
view the, you know, be able to
participate. Yeah.
>> And and ask a question.
you know, so that you know, you you're
not asking a, you know, an elderly
person to come in here, you know, from
top of the hill to have to come in here
in the win middle of winter to sit down.
You know, they can they can they can
zoom in, ask a question.
>> Yeah, I got you.
>> You know, I I public
I got your vote. Okay.
>> Yeah. Same.
>> Okay. You're saying Okay.
>> Yeah.
>> So, you're saying yes to Zoom? No.
>> Okay. You're saying no. Okay.
>> The Zoom to the public. Okay. Right. But
the Zoom will still be here for the
public.
>> Well, I think it's going to be t this
exercise going to be tabled for them. I
But I I think at least right now we're
going to get the general counsel feel on
it. So, um Nancy,
>> Zoom or no Zoom? Just straight question.
>> Yes.
>> That's it.
>> That's not fair. John got to talk. WELL,
>> WE GOT WE GOT TO KEEP ON THE NEXT
EXERCISE. I'm I'm moving the block.
>> But I just I want there to be Zoom. I
think it's important particularly for
the public for inclusivity.
Um
so,
>> thank you. Thank you, Nancy.
>> I agree with what I think John said,
which is it should be the exception, not
the rule. And yes to public. Yes to
public, exception, not the rule for
council.
>> Okay. All right. Let's see. Okay. public
council.
I think we got three and then you said
for the public or no
>> I don't want to post it.
>> Okay.
All right.
>> Um yes to Zoom, but there are occasions
where the mayor slashcounsel
person uh is sick and what have you. I
know personally I was sick around
Christmas and I swore a police officer
in on Zoom
exceptions. I limit you know maybe two
or three whatever but yes
>> okay
>> I am with uh the mayor and everybody
else on this just because I have kids
it's inevitable that I you know
>> in the future you know have to sue as
well. Okay, Sylvia,
>> I agree with Zoo and I think that uh
everybody has made a good comment. It
has its place and I'm not going to say
no. I think we need to keep it. We have
a public that we serve and they they
have every right to be on it and even if
we do in an emergency
and it's not habitual then, you know, I
think we're good.
>> Okay. Okay. So,
>> thank you.
>> Yep. I think we and yeah, I'm gonna
capture this and we're gonna we're gonna
be good. So,
all right.
>> And real quick, Zuma to all of us, well,
most of us is something new because
since uh co is when we went on Zoom,
>> it definitely has played.
>> Sorry. Sorry. Tim, I do you want to text
John if you uh and get your vote? Just
your real quick vote. Zoom or no Zoom?
>> Zoom.
Okay. Okay. For all
>> for all
>> public and
>> All right, we're moving on.
>> We got two years. Okay.
>> All right.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. So, we got another exercise.
Another fun fun exercise.
This one I think the public is going to
like. Okay. I really do think that
you're going to like this. Okay. So, you
have postits in front of you. Okay.
Everybody has their own color.
>> Everybody has their own color. Trish had
tasked you with um I think she sent an
email asking about what you really want
council to accomplish from a shortterm
goals perspective. Okay. So on your
postits, um, what you're going to do is
you're going to write down things that
you want to accomplish in the next 3 to
6 months,
6 to 12 months,
and 12 to 18 months. Okay? You want to
see these things accomplish. Okay? So,
what we're going to do is we're going to
have you, when you're done writing them
one by one, okay? Um, and we're going to
give you about 10 minutes to write them.
So I have 10 minutes to write them.
We're going to have you kind of go up
and place them on the different things
that I have up here. So I have shortterm
here, midterm here, longterm here. And
then if you want to give just a short
little thing like, and you don't have to
give it for every single one, but just
say this is the one of the reasons that,
you know, to give it some context. this
is one of the reasons that I chose um
you know the parks or I chose public
safety or something like that and this
is the reason and again the um some of
the former like or the current council
members might have some history as to
why they want to do something and things
like that. The new council members need
to know that type of thing. So go ahead
and write them down and then what we'll
do is um we'll start with Sylvia or you
want me to start over here with John?
Yeah, I'll start with John and then
he'll go up there and again you can give
anything context. You don't have to give
every single thing that you write down
context, but if there's something that
you want to share about a certain goal,
um, do it. And then I'm probably going
to from a scribe perspective, I'm going
to start categorizing it at some point
in time. Um, but we don't have to even
do that tonight because, you know, just
from a timing perspective. Is there
anything you want to add?
>> Thank you.
>> Just keep in mind council to keep this
specific and to things that we can
actually do ourselves within this time
period. So, one of my big goals is to
have a comprehensive plan. We are
probably not going to write that
ourselves within the next six months,
for example. Um, I also of course share
I think with Kurt and probably others
wanting to make Verona more walkable.
What does that mean? That's not
specific. However, organizing a walk
audit and things like that would be
specific examples.
>> Yeah, that's a good because we're going
to table. So, what we'll do is I'm
actually going to have a parking lot and
we're going to table things that might
be out of the realm because after we do
this exercise, there is another part to
this exercise and we're going to just
put like dots by things and almost vote
for that. So, there could be things that
we actually move to the parking lot that
won't be part of your three 3 to 6, 6 to
12 and 12 to 18.
>> Perfect.
Um, and Tim, if you just want to email
John or use the council dlist for your
items, we'll add them that way.
Pop this
>> recording now.
>> Okay. So, for sake of time, we're not
going to categorize it now. I told Trish
like we're going to categorize it like
after we kind of come up with like the
different the top ones and everything
like that. Uh, because they will fall
into different categories and
everything. But what I wanted to do now
is just like again, John, you just put
yours up there. Do you want to give
context to any of your blue sticky notes
and why you chose what you chose and or
do you want to just share with the rest
of the council? This is important to me
because
>> Oh, sure. I Well, you know, aside from
the obvious on the short-term stuff, I
you know, I the obvious is you
I saw some other ones up there. says
hire manager all that stuff.
There are some other stuff like that I
view is important that we've had that I
thought was one of you know my
priorities was that you know we need a
robust HR
uh you know program here at the bur
which we never had been working on it
for the last year or so with the
previous council and we're still working
on it now and we're going to continue to
do it and uh so I thought that uh that
was one of my uh priorities Is that in
short?
>> That's in short and and and you'll see
it keeps building u it's in my notes
there. So you know uh so I put you know
review procedures and code of conduct
you know so that's part of the HR and uh
you know and then continue robust HR
management and uh document framework
two
um the another one would be uh another
separate item would be identify one or
two more quick win projects from stamp
to demonstrate progress. you know, for
example, like
the Jones Street reconstruction,
you know, can be, you know, how can we
move that along?
Now, that's on the board. We're trying
to get that going.
>> So, actually, I uh I'm very happy to
report that representative Andrew called
me earlier today. We were awarded that
>> Yeah, I was wondering what's going on.
the MTF for Joe Street Reconstruction.
>> Are you good?
>> Yeah. Um, for sure. So, you want me to
continue?
>> One can for me.
>> Yeah. To give context of something that
you're passionate.
>> So, another another one. It's very
important. So, I just wanted to uh one
one more thing and I'll
be like Dick Williams. like you ready
for this?
So, so uh um I wanted to I know a lot of
folks have said that, you know, we we we
can't we can't deal Oakmont hates us. We
can't do anything with Oakmont. You
know, I don't think we've ever really
approached them or even tried to
approach them to do anything, right? And
I know that, you know, there's people
out there, I think, that are willing to
talk to us. And I think there's there
might be opportunities there, you know,
given their their budgetary problems
where we might be able to do some sort
of a shared service deal where it could
save us money, save them money, you
know, whether it's, you know, going in
on buying equipment or sharing
equipment,
some sort of thing like that where I
think where we could it could benefit us
where we could have some sort of a joint
twin burrows committee where we could
have a a couple council members from
here, maybe a couple council members
from from over there. We can meet a few
times a year, discuss things that
concern both bureaus, whether it's
policing, you know, the crime, the, you
know, anything, you know, that that
vault trail, that kind of stuff,
anything that that we need to discuss
and we can have even have open forums
for the public and and they can come and
and talk. And I thought maybe that might
be a great idea that we could we could
reach out to them and perhaps do
something like that.
>> Yeah.
>> I don't know.
>> No, I think that's a great idea.
>> So, okay, Kelly,
>> I don't remember put
>> uh let's see. So, I did three to six
months. I put a few people or a few
things out.
>> Can you talk a little louder, please?
>> Thank you. Um my I have a scanner.
>> No. Yes. Give her the mic because the
people at home can't it's for the people
at home. There's direct.
>> So I have a scanner in a pantry that I'm
bringing down and that's um 3 to 6
months. I I'm bringing it down. I just
have not
um I'm actually putting it outside in
the double doors, but everybody knows
about it. Y'all were here basically.
Yes. So, I'm I'm just waiting for a sign
to be made and then bring it out there.
Um, next one. Um,
which one do we want to pick? I'm going
to pick this one. Um, I want to get a
swing on the two parks for autistic
kids. They don't have anything and I
don't I find that really terrible. They
don't have something for them and they
need specific swing and I would like to
get that. Um,
and one other thing that's really
important, I think, too, is the fire
department. I would like to try to get a
brick for them. Fix some of the stuff up
that they need.
>> You You heard me, Becca?
>> I didn't hear that. Middle
>> fire department.
>> Okay.
>> So, like they have a lot of things there
that needs fixed. So, um, I did I did
talk to Dan about it. So, give he's
going to send me pictures and hopefully
we can do something to help them.
So, she can talk about the that can be
your thing. Well, I love that you said
that, Kelly, because I know that um from
our meeting with Joe last year that the
fire department does kind of identify
their priorities and apply for things,
but whatever we can do to increase that
collaboration and help to catalyze their
progress as well, I think is an
excellent.
>> If we could fix this, then we could rent
it is the whole point. We can make them
money. Ah,
>> so
kind of what I was hoping so that they
could just get bigger and have money and
you do events there and it be great like
we did for the fire big victim
>> like a community center.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> And then you conduct 12 covers.
>> Kelly and I really uh are passionate
about storm drain covers which isn't as
simple as it sounds because the way they
are um something about the engineering
requires a custom thing. So, it is it is
a project, but many of you who are
aware, we've had small animals. Um,
well, let me just explain. So, Kurt, if
you go to his house, Kurt has a huge
opening. A child could literally easily
just fall. If water came, they would go
right under. I I promise you. And there
are tons of raccoons that come out at
night and rats. And I think it needs
covered. It is very big. If you know the
bottom of Ridge,
>> well on ridge and first they come out
when I'm walking. I see.
>> That's another one. And then there's one
across the street from him too that does
have one that drops down. I actually did
a long time ago. But anyway, I just
think it's really important because um
>> I was just thinking like if water came
quick that's really big by his house.
And recently he had a raccoon come out
and the game commission came out and got
it um because it came out and they
thought it had rubies which
Don't get into that. Don't think about
re anyway. I just want to I think it's
good to protect the people, too, because
they're coming out. I mean, just cover
it and then the animals will go wherever
they have to go and we don't have to
worry about safety concern. So, it's
just it's a big safety concern in a
specific
>> spot. Yeah.
>> Thank you.
>> My turn.
>> Your turn. Yeah.
>> Okay. Um,
obviously I have a lot here. Um,
>> so just a few with context.
>> Yeah.
I wanted to work and support the police
to get the cops grant this year.
>> Oh yeah. Um, and also, um, I actually
put cameras for shortterm and midterm
because I think some cameras we can get
sooner for certain areas depending on
what grant programs we have and uh, that
sort of thing. So, I mean, I have a
bunch of other ones, but we said we're
pick.
Okay. So, midterm.
Um, well, capital plan. We we we need to
really formalize our capital plan. Okay.
Um, and um
uh we need to get uh our current
policies that we do have organized. And
then we need that clearly a couple came
up tonight that we need to uh work on
and and have them formulated
and then uh
I see. Yeah. Voting. Um and then
obviously the comp plan. But my other
thing that I'd really like to see
because I live there is I like to
continue riverfront development. you
know, it was my dream when I moved here
by the river to uh to to
have that be developed. And it's
starting, but it's such a slow process.
I And I know that our uh representative
wants that, too. He wants the riverfront
to be developed.
Uh oh. Do you need I don't know where.
>> Oh, when you
>> uh Okay. So, that's yours. But Tracy,
could you I don't think we Can you
unshare so we can see everybody who's
here?
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Thank you.
>> Okay. Thank you. Um
administratively,
I want to see the implementation of the
super committee structure along with
welcome a junior council member.
>> I should have said that. I also want to
second the cops grant in general
supporting our police department as much
as possible.
Also based on today's update adding to
schedule a public block audit of Joan
Street with rep Andrew if you would like
to do that with us.
High on my list and related to
riverfront development is I want us to
apply for a grant this year through DCNR
to do a investigation or plan a
feasibility study of an alternative VA
connection to Oakmont. So this would be
an off connection um and further explore
that possibility.
We also talked when we launched the ADA
accessible kayak launch at the uh public
dock area about um coming back and
looking for a grant to redo our public
dock. So don't want that to be
forgotten. We've also gotten a number of
questions lately about street sweeping
in the winter.
Um, very high on my list is to apply for
funding through Main Street Matters for
business district revitalization and
eventual Main Street program. I also
want to highlight um obviously our hands
are tied a lot with what we can do to
support our police in terms of pay. But
one thing we can do is consider
alternatives for the police pension
funds because switching to a different
fund may allow a higher yield which
could at least be a way to help them
eventually have more in their pension
fund even if it's if our hands are tied
with um competing with Oakmont and
others about their pay.
>> I like that one you put up 360.
>> Yeah, but I'd like it 360 to be uh
>> you can sit you can sit there and talk
if you want.
>> Yes. Um,
>> I can take that. Yeah. You
>> Well, my um mine would go from 3 months
all the way to 18 months. The same
thing. Uh, public safety is the number
one priority. This is the first time in
a long time we have a full police
department's
priority, you know, um, you know, for
this town. And uh once again we had
talked about you know over there um
responding in a timely manner with the
public. We need to continue to do that
you know not and beyond the 18 months
and grants we need to continue really
looking for any type of grant we can get
no matter whether it's for the police,
fire, parks, this building whatever
they're out there. We need to be very uh
diligent in going after them and we need
to uh with the alleys. I know that's one
big thing of rename, you know, naming
the alleys. That's a big priority.
>> Can I have ask you a question about the
career?
>> When we do that, have we are we trying
to get a grant to do those signs?
>> There's grants out there. I mean,
there's many grants out there,
>> you know, for a lot of different things.
There's probably even grants out Payton
inside the building. I'm sure something
out there, different types of monies out
there. We need to be more vigilant in
going after a lot of grants. Yep.
>> You know, and you know,
>> I forgot it. I forgot one.
>> And that's my three to 18 months and
beyond.
>> Yeah.
>> You know, same thing basically.
>> Thank you.
>> Sure.
>> I'll take the mic.
>> I don't have a lot of
>> And then just to let everybody know that
the consumer rate I like that house when
the kids act up.
I have a dog cage you can have for that.
>> There you go. I'll use that. Um and for
uh pedestrian safety obviously that
doesn't need any you know text I think
there's a lot of crosswalks and pavement
markings that could be redone. Um what's
up here? Long-term uh paving plan and
then it
>> I don't know. Does somebody else want to
say that or should I say?
>> Okay. There's a couple of us who like
the idea of having a uh social worker.
So
>> just for the police.
>> Yes. For Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> I'm gonna ask Tom.
>> You don't want to get up. You don't have
to. You just want to tell him.
I didn't know we had.
>> So those are your shortterm.
>> But I placed them for her. So I did
place them around because I said like
some paint a little bit more longterm.
>> Long.
So if you want to do the short term,
I'll give you the
>> first of all thank you John uh our
student council person here for coming
very nice to have
>> my goals here are I feel that inviting
more residents to come to uh community
meetings here our council meetings I
think that's real important. I love
seeing a full house here. So, I always
say thank you to all that come and
please continue to come and invite
neighbors and friends.
>> Uh, also I like seeing our streets being
well repaired. That's important and it
certainly adds more to our community.
>> That is midterm.
>> This is midterm.
Have more community events that will
bring our residents out and this way it
makes everybody feel part of our
community. That to me is important to
all. I like seeing red we do something
>> long
>> and long term to have a um have more
homeowners rather than rentals. We need
to get more people on the tax records
>> and also this is also a very good thing
for the town. People who own a home care
about that home and they're going to
always try to keep it upkeep and looking
good, which is great for all of us.
>> Thank you.
>> Thanks.
>> And then just to add to what Sylvia
said, I did have one more. Um, so
implement a fee or fees for companies
or, you know, LLC's who buy property in
Verona.
Who um
>> who approves that?
>> Nobody.
>> You can't you can't regulate who buys
for
>> Okay. Cuz I thought we weren't allowed
to be business owners and so
>> certain areas are zoned.
>> Probably a discussion for another time.
But I'm saying is there any way to
not
>> is there any way to like
not regulate but
>> someone in town?
>> Yeah. I mean
>> it's a question for the solicitor but I
don't think so unfortunately.
>> For sake of time I'll put Sie is back up
here.
>> Okay.
>> Yeah. I wanted and then
add our colleague Tim's real quick
because he he uh
>> Tim I'm sorry. Yes, Tim for Tim.
>> I I put them up there. They're red and I
put them up in mid.
So,
>> so what did he check?
>> I wrote um address unnecessary spending
and ensure more
efficient sorry more efficient uh use of
resources
and then continued development and
maintenance of pave of parks, roads and
general infrastructure.
>> Yeah, that's exactly what he said. Yeah.
He said, you know, my thoughts are that
last year we had a lot of wasteful
spending that had us raising taxes
because I have been an advocate for the
parks for the last uh 10 years since my
time on parks and recreation.
>> Yeah. So, I put this two up there as
midterm.
>> Okay. All right. So, for sake of time,
we're not going to categorize them now
because I could take them and I could
categorize them later. But what you're
going to do as council members is you
each have a marker. Um you're going to
go up to these boards and you're going
to put a dot a dot on your top five
>> of each time frame.
>> No total.
>> And here's no here's why. Let me get
like So, so the reason being is you all
have priorities and there's things that
again that's what I said if you all put
them on the short term. We're going to
have to look at you're going to have to
look at that as council and be like,
"Okay, well, we can't get all of this
done the short term. We might have to
move this to midterm, whatever." But
you're just going to pick your top five
across the board and then we you can
again this is a work in progress. You
can rearrange it or do what you need to
from a timing perspective. So, are we
supposed to mark it on the white piece
of paper?
>> If you if you can mark it to the
>> No, mark it. Try to mark it on the
postit.
>> But if since you have orange and you
want orange, if you want to use a black
one and use a dot, that's fine. It
doesn't show up.
>> It works. It works.
>> Okay. Yeah.
>> Yeah. Okay. All right. All right. So,
go.
>> Yeah. Okay. So, I told Trish for the
sake of time or whatever, I'm gonna take
all this. It's all going to be put in a
document. It's all going to be shared
out to like at a regular meeting or
some, you know, a workshop meeting or
whatever. Uh, but do we want to open
does go ahead you can say the comment
thing.
>> Thank you
and thank you everyone for participating
patiently in this exercise. I know it's
a little out of the box, a little
unconventional, but I hope you found
value in it. We will be continuing to
look at this and once we have our
finalized version of both the code of
conduct and our priorities, they will be
hanging in this room for the whole year.
So, as new things come up, we will
remind ourselves of our pre-selected
priorities and consider how things will
fall in so that we can make the most of
our time together this year, our council
together.
So, at this time, we'll move on to
section seven. This will be the final
section for comments from the public on
this exercise, the previous or anything
in general. At this time, council will
hear comments on these matters. Please
approach the podium or raise your
virtual hand, state your name and
address, and try and limit your comments
to three minutes or less. Again,
comments should focus on burough
business policies or action. We
encourage thoughtful feedback on
decisions and performance while
maintaining respectful and constructive
dialogue. Are there any comments from
the public at this time? Susie, come on
up.
No, me. I have to always have some for
the Susie Davis. Um, the sidewalk up at
Second Street and Center Avenue is
getting by far worse. I brought it up
beginning of the school year.
>> He had many times to get it done, taken
care of. It's only deteriorating. In
another four months, five months, the
girl graduates.
>> I said, you know, how many injuries is
she going to have between now and then?
Especially with ice. Yeah.
>> And she's forced out onto the street.
>> So, it's a safety hazard all the way
around. So, it needs to be addressed
immediately.
>> You got it.
>> It's not only Okay. Not only for her,
but for everybody that walks in this
barrel because like I said, everybody
knows I'm a walker. You see me walking
all around town.
>> You?
>> No, not me. But it's it's a safety
hazard. And we I notice I have some
elderly up there that are out walk.
>> Yeah. when they come to that block, they
walk out onto the road.
>> The other day, there was a lady out
there. She was afraid to walk out on the
road because there was a little bit of
uh ice out. I says, "Well, Hana," I
says, "If you would let me, I will guide
you around." Yep.
>> So, I guided her to the safety to avoid
that sidewalk being on the road. She was
very complimentary. She said, "Whatever
I can do." She wanted to pay me. I said,
"No, this is what we do in this town."
>> I love that. I was brought up that way.
You help your neighbor, you help
everybody. But we got to do it here in
town and get that sidewalk fixed. Now,
>> as we're on that subject soon,
>> thank you.
>> I drove past there today and my question
is, we have ordinances.
He has a boat parked there, large
equipment. Yeah. In a yard. That's not
You're not supposed It's not acceptable.
It's not a parking lot. The big the
biggest issue now with with concrete is
because of the stupid weather. Yeah. Now
it's like,
>> you know, you'd have to have at least a
couple days of 60 plus degree weather to
have that stuff cured.
>> We've been free.
>> Kelly, can I work with you to drop that
email to Jason to check in?
>> Yeah.
>> Thank you. Uh, next comment.
>> Apparently, there aren't any.
>> Nobody else.
>> Okay.
>> Oh, wait. There's Sherry.
>> There's Sherry.
Um, Sherry 759 East Row. And I just want
to say I did not expect the meeting to
be the way it is today. I truly enjoyed
it. I think it is very out of box. It's
team building. Not only for the council,
I think it's for the whole community.
And one of the things I want to say,
even though you guys are elected
officials, but the public need to keep
in mind, you're non-paid. You volunteer
your time. You're sacrificing your own
time to be here. So, I think um I've
been here for 20 years and I'd be coming
to council meeting because we raised our
kids, so we've left for a while. And um
it is a small town with limited
resources. And I think u everybody's
doing their best. And I feel like
everybody need to give a new council
some grace, some time, some patience.
And I'm sure that it would done very
well. And for a little town like this
for the accomplishment that this town
has seen, I think it has done very, very
well. I think we should give you guys
time. You should give each other time
and grace and patient. And I see elected
official being loved and the same
official being hated by six months
later. So don't take it too seriously,
but you know, we should all get along.
>> Thank you, Sherry.
>> Appreciate it. Are there any other
comments from the public at this time?
Okay, then I will entertain to allow
council time to review the exercises
from tonight and so we can continue
towards a finalized version and also um
collaborate with our bureau manager upon
his return. I will entertain a motion to
recess until Monday evening, January 26
at 700 p.m. Monday.
>> Seven. You want seven.
>> What is Monday? What does that coming
in?
>> No.
>> Just so we can have Jason's involvement.
>> There was Yeah.
>> I'll make a motion for a recess for
Monday, January 26th at 700 p.m.
>> Do I have I have a first by Councelor
Carpenter. Do I have a second?
>> Second.
>> Second by councelor Penza. Are there any
questions or comments?
>> All in favor?
Are there any opposed?
This meeting stands in recess. Thank
you.